Join us on this action-packed episode of Super Bracket Bros as we debate the showdown between Fury Bowser from Bowser's Fury and the Colossal Titan from Attack on Titan. With the help of our guests, Joey from Affable Chat and Eric from the Wait For It Podcast, we examine the strengths and weaknesses of each character to determine who would reign supreme in this epic battle.
We kick off our discussion by diving into the history of Bowser, the Koopa King, and the 2021 game Bowser's Fury. Then we turn our attention to the fearsome Colossal Titan, exploring its origins, creator Hajime Isayama, and the nail-biting anime adaptation that keeps audiences on the edge of their seats.
Will Bowser's speed and lava laser outshine the Titan's steam emission and regenerative abilities? Or will the colossal force of the Titan prove too much for the Koopa King to handle? Find out as we analyze the battle from every angle and rate each character's chances of victory. Don't miss this exhilarating episode of Super Bracket Bros!
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Join us on this action-packed episode of Super Bracket Bros as we debate the showdown between Fury Bowser from Bowser's Fury and the Colossal Titan from Attack on Titan. With the help of our guests, Joey from Affable Chat and Eric from the Wait For It Podcast, we examine the strengths and weaknesses of each character to determine who would reign supreme in this epic battle.
We kick off our discussion by diving into the history of Bowser, the Koopa King, and the 2021 game Bowser's Fury. Then we turn our attention to the fearsome Colossal Titan, exploring its origins, creator Hajime Isayama, and the nail-biting anime adaptation that keeps audiences on the edge of their seats.
Will Bowser's speed and lava laser outshine the Titan's steam emission and regenerative abilities? Or will the colossal force of the Titan prove too much for the Koopa King to handle? Find out as we analyze the battle from every angle and rate each character's chances of victory. Don't miss this exhilarating episode of Super Bracket Bros!
Find more about Joey and Affable Chat here
Find out more about The Wait For It Podcast here
Discover where else Super Bracket Bros can be found here
See the current bracket at the pinned post at the top of the page of our Facebook
Vote on the all the matchups on our Instagram
Get in contact with us: superbracketbros@gmail.com
Check out Eli and his many good things here
Intro music created for this show by Nick Heredia
Big thank you to our current Patrons for helping support the show: Andrew, Matt, Wait For It Podcast, Kyle O, and Emily
Thank you so much for joining us on Super Bracket Bros. My name is Jay, your host and your personal brrrracketologist. This is the podcast that takes your favorite fictional characters from across the multiverse and throws them into a tournament to find out just who is the best of the best. Today we have what our AP voters suggest should be our closest match, with our 8 vs 9 seed, with Bowser vs the colossal Titan And, of course, as always, sitting across from me, i have my co-host and your colossal, koopa Elias Stokes. How you doing today?
Speaker 2:Eli, i'm doing well. The shell is very big and very annoying.
Speaker 1:You're not enjoying the Koopa lifestyle. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2:No, no, because I thought, oh, i'm colossal. Mario won't be able to stomp on me, but Nintendo, they keep giving him power ups that make him colossal.
Speaker 1:So I just get stomped on. Are you saying that there's a protagonist antagonist bias going on here from Nintendo, that they don't favor their villains for some reason?
Speaker 2:No, koopa's not good. Bowser is a terrible boss, so I'm getting blindside from both sides.
Speaker 1:Oh, I have to pay for my shell replacement Jay Mario takes all my coins. Wow. So you get. Wow. I mean, this is just like the classic American experience. You're getting it from the government and from like thieves on the street?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the thieves, the hero, man, garbage.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for having joined us on today's episode. Today we are talking Fury Bowser from Bowser's Fury versus the Colossal Titan from Attack on Titan As a first round episode. How today's episode is going to break down is, well, we have a couple of guests to introduce and get to know. Then the bulk of the first half is going to be getting to know our fighters today and then, of course, the back half is going to be who would win in a fight between Fury Bowser and the Colossal Titan. Like I said, we have a couple of guests to introduce, starting off part one of two parts of having affable chat on in two episodes in a row. That is right If you're not familiar with affable chat.
Speaker 1:Affable chat is me and you guys favorite movie podcast that we get to go on all the time and talk about just everything, from everything all at once, all the way to Jurassic Park. We always enjoy going on, always enjoy their banter, their critiques, their thinking, their thought process on movies. It's always a joy to get to listen to affable chat. It's why we are honored to have Joey on today's episode. How are you doing today, joey?
Speaker 4:I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on, jay. It's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1:How are you feeling about today's episode?
Speaker 4:I'm feeling pretty good. I'm not a huge, i'm not an Attack on Titan fan I've barely watched the show but I love Bowser and these characters are interesting to talk about, so I'm excited to be here. I feel like this is going to be the most objective I've ever been on Super Bracket Bros.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's quite the claim. We'll see at the end how objective you're feeling Once we put Bowser to the test. Are you really going to stay objective? We'll find out. But we have one more guest to introduce today, the other guest today, i mean, also we're going back to back episodes. Last episode we had the Wait For It podcast and this episode we have the Wait For It podcast. On The other half today, the Wait For It podcast if you're not familiar, if you haven't gone, check it out the hundred times that I have suggested you to do so is the best pop culture podcast on the internet where you're going to find anime reviews, you're going to find suggestions for, i mean, it's called Netflix and Phil, but it's just Apple TV, you know promo all day long.
Speaker 3:It really is. Thank you for calling that out.
Speaker 1:Which I'm okay with because Apple TV is fantastic. but that's right. We are being joined by one, mr Eric Almighty How you doing today, eric.
Speaker 3:I am doing great, doing fantastic. I'm ready for this episode. I have been looking forward to it and it was nice, you know, to see Phil come away with like back to back wins. You know he's on a streak, positive streak. I'm looking to rebound from a pretty tough loss the last time I came off first loss, hopefully only So really really looking forward to this.
Speaker 2:I want to say the head to head, like records of the Way For It. Guys are probably my favorite subplot of Super Bracket Bros. It's something I always look forward to developing.
Speaker 1:Gotta keep it going. But I'm glad that you're excited for today's episode, but I want to give our audience a little bit of a chance to get to know the both of you a little bit more. So, joey, let's start with you. If you could live the day in the life of a fictional character, who would?
Speaker 4:it be. Okay, jay. So this question is a little different than the other ones you've asked me, because I feel like this is a little more personal. So I really kind of struggled to find an answer. I think most people would gravitate toward like a superhero, not just because the general theme of this show, but because it's also really cool to have superpowers. But I'm not really convinced that this would be much fun. After all, with great power comes great responsibility, and most of our popular heroes don't really seem to be having a great time And when we tune in to watch their story something terrible is happening to them. Even though they have godlike powers, they just seem kind of miserable. So maybe we should go in a different direction. If I wanted superpowers, i would want the flashes powers, but the flash has ethics and a moral duty to protect the stability of time Like pathetic.
Speaker 4:But what about Ia Barton, also known as the reverse flash? He has all the flashes powers, but he has no limits. Time is like silly putty in his hands and he bends the multiverse to his whim. But I feel like this doesn't really answer the spirit of the question. Because the truth is, jay, if you were to give me Ia Barton's life for a day, it wouldn't be for just one day. First, how are you going to catch me to put me back in my mortal podcasting body?
Speaker 2:It would be impossible.
Speaker 4:I would be hiding between moments, traveling to the far past and distant future, leaving no trace. But even if you could catch me, to a time traveler like Thon, a day is an infinite amount of time. Seconds can stretch into decades if you know what you're doing. And with the vast powers at my disposal, my every whim could be fulfilled. God may have taken six days to create the universe, but I can rip it to pieces and just one Ah, but no, i don't think power is the way to go here.
Speaker 3:Jay, don't excuse my French, but don't ask me that fucking question next.
Speaker 4:I don't want to answer. I don't want to answer after that. That was nuts. I'm not done here, so I don't think power is the way to go here. Who knows what kind of elaborate prison of my own hubris those losers at Team Flash have cooked up for me. They may not have much imagination, but they're not stupid. No, i think I would want to live my one day in the life of a chill guy, a guy that really has it all figured out. Every day is kind of the same, but every day is full of excitement, friendship and mystery, and at the end of my one day I can sit back, have a snack with my dog and be content with a job well done. Any guesses of who this is?
Speaker 1:Are you going with Shaggy?
Speaker 4:That's right, I would live my one day as Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 1:No that's amazing. Every day we see in Shaggy's life follows a very similar pattern but it's never boring.
Speaker 4:He is constantly running in mortal terror, but the dangers are largely imaginary and toothless. You get to hang out with your best friends and go to cool places and meet cool guest stars who always say your catchphrases. Plus, you spend all day with the most iconic good boy of all time, sharing snacks, sharing adventures. It's a pretty sweet gig. Look, we all know Shaggy's deal He's getting high in the van with a dog. I could do that.
Speaker 4:The thing about Shaggy is the pressure is so off. Fred has to be the leader, daphne has to look great, velma has to be the brains. No one wants to hear what the dog thinks. If I was to replace Shaggy for a day in the Mystery Machine, the expectations would be super low and the rest of the team wouldn't suffer from Shaggy's absence. It's a low interference, highly entertaining ride. The thing that clinches this for me is that Mr Gang is doing really good work.
Speaker 4:Shaggy is out there taking out petty capitalists and bringing life and wonder to ancient structures. He's part of the candle in the dark against the demon-haunted world, and that's what I'm really looking for when I'm missing in my real life The chance to do good, to use science, reason and fun to shine a light where others don't dare tread, to make the world a little less scary and to punish those who hide in fear, hide in the dark and thrive on fear. Scooby-doo is about showing that the supernatural is a tool used by the powerful to control the rest of us. Shaggy isn't anything special, but he's still dedicated himself to fighting the good fight through collective action and real bravery, standing in the path of barbarism.
Speaker 1:Joey, it sounds like you're about to abandon your life to go be Shaggy I hope that I didn't persuade you to abandon your family and go live in a van and try to solve mysteries. Wow, all the way from the highs of Reverse Flash, all the way down to, also, the highs of Shaggy and Scooby Wow, that's quite the journey you took us on, yeah.
Speaker 4:I hope you enjoyed that I did. I thoroughly did. No, I'd like to unlearn all of that. I'd like to unknow you a little bit.
Speaker 3:If we could do a Reverse Questionnaire on unknowing him or anybody else, that'd be great. That is nuts. That is nuts And Jay. I didn't get a question in advance so I wasn't able to write up basically a full book chapter of a response. That was amazing. I'm never going to talk to that. Nothing I ever do from this point on will tell anything that just happened. I think it's best that we move on from it.
Speaker 1:Don't pretend. If I had given you a week, that you would have written a page essay.
Speaker 3:For me, it doesn't matter what you're going to get, and now I'm nervous.
Speaker 4:My palms are sweaty.
Speaker 3:Have you ever tried to answer a question with sweaty palms? It doesn't work. It was weak, exactly, oh gosh.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:I really don't intend for this introduction section to turn into some pseudo rap battle. I don't know what you expected.
Speaker 4:I don't know what you expected. I feel like I've dictated. I feel like I've telegraphed this to you, jay. I don't know what you expected from me.
Speaker 2:Listeners came in expecting Fieri Bowser fighting Colossal Titan. What they actually got was Eric Almighty fighting Joey from affable chat Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know that was the battle that was coming, Oh gosh.
Speaker 1:So, eric, let's toss it over to you. I know that's a lot to live up to, but I believe in you. You know there's a reason I didn't have a question for you today, because I've asked you all the questions that I've generated. So, I have complete faith in you, so I want to know you know, do you have a favorite fictional weapon of all time?
Speaker 3:I do, and it's a boring-ass answer. That's why I'm so disappointed And how great that was. Yeah, it's definitely a lightsaber Like that, i know it's an easy answer, but I was a Star Wars kid.
Speaker 3:I can't tell you how many times I pretended to have a lightsaber in my hands and I really realized how much it was like the weapon of choice for me, because when I went to Disney just a few weeks ago maybe a month ago we went to Hollywood Studios and I was this close to buying a lightsaber One of those very expensive. You got to make an appointment to go get it made.
Speaker 2:Oh man, Lightsabers at.
Speaker 3:Disney because it was just so cool. You know they were making droids, they were making lightsabers, the rides are stellar the Rise of the Resistance ride, by the way, one of the best rides I've ridden in quite some time. And again it's just Star Wars, like that whole environment, that whole vibe, it's amazing. So, yeah, i'm going to go with the easy choice, but it is nostalgic for me the lightsaber. So there you go, little piece of my childhood.
Speaker 1:What color is your lightsaber?
Speaker 3:What color? Honestly, I've always liked green. Blue is the normal one. You know, Mace Windu's got the purple, the red's the sith, I don't know. green, just something about it screams like that's your real Jedi.
Speaker 1:when you get the green lightsaber, That's the way I feel, i know of the lightsabers that you speak of and, man, that's tempting, that's tempting. So I applaud you, sir, actually, for not throwing more money in Disney's pocket.
Speaker 3:No, literally, i'm not even kidding. I walked up and I was like, hey, do you guys do the lightsabers here? They're like, yeah, you normally got to make an appointment, but if you come back in 30 minutes I can fit you in.
Speaker 4:I was like oh no, and then I just I was hoping you were going to say no, i stood around for 29 minutes
Speaker 2:right in the area and I was like I can't do this.
Speaker 3:And honestly only for the fact that I would have no reason for it, like I have nowhere to. Really I don't want to spend that much money to just put it up. Doesn't get used or looked at, really Like I'm not going to whip it out every now and then. That would be for company.
Speaker 2:Hey guys, look, no, that's not how that's going to work.
Speaker 1:I'm glad, Eric. thank you for sharing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, we can, we can move on now You have permission. No problem You don't have to have to take it on. You're a bowser colossal. Let's do this.
Speaker 1:So now let's talk about our fighters. Let's get to know them a little bit more. Let's start with Bowser, the king of the Koopas. Bowser is one of the most famous video game characters of all time and needs a little introduction, but I will try my best. Ever since the original Super Mario Bros that came out in 1985. Bowser has been trying to defend his kingdom of Koopas and his beloved princess peach from the evil doer that is Mario and his wretched brother Luigi.
Speaker 1:The Bowser we are discussing today comes from the 2021 game Bowser's Fury, the open world 3D platform game for the Nintendo Switch. In the game, bowser takes on a form that puts him officially in the kaiju category and more than capable of making some noise in this tournament. Going behind the scenes a little bit, the most well-known voice actor for Bowser throughout the games has been Kenny James. Fun fact about Kenny James today a little bit of a crossover here is he actually was also the voice of Fritz from Attack on Titan. His most recent version in pop culture comes from the extremely popular Super Mario Bros movie that was released just a few months ago, where he was, of course, portrayed by none other than Jack Black Excellently, i will say myself I agree, peaches, yep, there it is.
Speaker 1:Joey, tell us about your experience with the Mario franchise at large, and then specifically about Bowser's Fury.
Speaker 4:Um, i love Mario. I love the Mario games. I think my favorite one is 3D World. Despite some of its flaws, i still find that game extremely fun. I've played it almost all the way through, including the like 10 bonus worlds that come with that game like three or four times It's. And I also really like Super Mario Galaxy, super Mario World. I had my Game Boy Advance one of the first games I ever played And I actually had a world where I got to 999 lives by basically playing the same level over and over again in farming lives in it, because I was so afraid of losing my save.
Speaker 3:I never even beat the game on it. It was ridiculous. That's how.
Speaker 4:I used to play video games when I was nine years old. I have always liked the Mario franchise. I feel like it's still the quintessential platformer. I'm a big fan of that genre and no one really does it better than Mario. The ability to move about the stage and the way that your character can move, based on different characteristics like how fast you're moving and what kind of power-ups you have, are all really really interesting and displayed really really well in the game is so beautiful because it doesn't require any sort of tutorial. All you need to do is play it and it will teach you how to play it right there on the screen, and it's pretty incredible stuff. I'm just a huge fan of Mario franchise. I think it's beautiful, i think it's fun to play and I even like the movie.
Speaker 4:The Bowser's Fury was like a fun thing for me because I'm such a big fan of 3D World. It plays with a lot of the same 3D World mechanics, uses the cats as a major motif, which I think is fun, because I like to think of cats as extra-planer beings, so having them be representing an extra dimension in the good world is fun. So that's a. I think the game is really cool. It's sort of an experiment for Nintendo because it's one world but with a bunch of different lands that you can go to, very small, very compact, and it has this recurring event of Bowser coming up and attacking. Yeah, i played it when it came out. I played it through Joy-Con Drift. Unfortunately, that is the thing that stood out to me, but I did get new controllers and have played it since.
Speaker 4:It's a very fun game and I really like being the cat. Cat Mario is awesome and I really like getting really big and messing up Bowser in every way I can. Nintendo is clever about the way they structure their games. It's the same thing, but it's not actually the same thing. It's a different world that you're loaded into. It just looks like it's smaller. They're very clever about the way they structure those things, so I was a big fan of it. I thought Fury Bowser was intimidating large. I said, wow, that guy's big and I hope I get to be that big one day.
Speaker 1:Very astute observation, joey. Maybe once you feed enough veggies you'll get there. Thanks, Jay. Eric, i want to toss it over to you Now. I know that you haven't played Bowser's Fury, but tell us generally about your Mario fandom. I guess, specifically, we should talk about the elephant in the room. We should talk about the Mario movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no. So a couple things on Super Mario, while it's not a current thing that I actively play. Really, i moved away from Nintendo after the 64. Nintendo 64 was the console to have And, of course, every Mario game under the sun I played. Super Mario World is obviously really great, but I've seen good things about Super Mario Galaxy. It's obviously lived on with a lot of these other iterations. Mario Kart, the classic right Mario and all the characters are so iconic It's hard not to get intrigued. That's why, when the movie came out, i knew I had to watch it and man did it not disappoint, which is very surprising because everyone wanted to hate that movie with Chris Pratt, castus Mario He didn't do a bad job.
Speaker 3:He didn't do a bad job. I enjoyed it a lot more than I needed to because it's definitely catered to kids, but I'm really excited for this next generation to be able to experience those characters and, very selfishly, all the type of Nintendo-like movies that are going to come from it, because now that Mario is one of the most successful animated films, is that have come out in a while. I mean, yeah, we're going to see it all And I can't wait to see that eventually turn into, you know, a little Super Smash Bros movie.
Speaker 1:So I think, that's, I think it's inevitable, honestly. Yeah, and Super Bracket Bros is going to be riding that high into podcast fame, almost certainly. So we're just waiting. Nintendo, you just give us a call and we'll be there at the red carpet, do an interview, talk to the stars about who would win and what battle. So you know, nintendo, you just let us know We'll be there.
Speaker 2:The Super Smash Bros movie is just an hour and a half of Jay and me just arguing.
Speaker 1:Maybe we could get you know. I mean like they had you know, like semi-famous people, like do cameos and like the Dungeons Dragons movie and like the McRoy brothers were in trolls, and like we could be like extras in the. Super Smash Bros movie right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. Like we deserve it for all the press of Super Smash Bros. You can be candy fodder or something. You can smash it away, Yeah we could be the me's.
Speaker 1:We could be, me's just hanging out.
Speaker 3:Like that would get destroyed.
Speaker 1:I'm okay with that. Let's talk about Bowser in general. I kind of want to hone in on what makes him so iconic. Is it just being counterpart to the most famous video game character of all time, in Mario, you know? is that why Bowser's iconic, or what does make Bowser special?
Speaker 4:I think there's like there's a lot to Bowser. That is simplicity, right. But one of the things I like about Bowser is that he is just a bad guy. There's not like a lot of nuance going on about like, oh, like he's doing it for you know this reason or anything. He's just bad. He's always capturing people, putting them in jars and, you know, putting them in cages. He's always destroying stuff and causing chaos throughout the Mushroom Kingdom. You know, unleashing monsters onto the world. Everyone else is. You know, the Toads and Peach and Mario are always just kind of having a good time hanging out and then Bowser comes in to ruin the party. So he's always you know, he's always the villain and I enjoy that. I think that the other thing is that like he's also kind of industrialist, right, he's always building new stuff. You got all these castles everywhere staffed by his children. It's just a. It's like you know he has this Bowser really kind of flavors the whole world in a big way.
Speaker 4:I think of Bowser as sort of a More attention is paid to him than he is to Mario. Mario is kind of your avatar, right. He's kind of He does whatever you say, but Bowser is like the thing that you're fighting. He's the big bad guy that's out there. He's got all the spikes on him, he looks pretty mean, he's got the fun coloring And he's always kind of developed alongside of Mario right. As Mario has become more detailed and more interesting, bowser has also developed new powers and become bigger and bigger and more intimidating. So it's fun to like see these kind of you know twin stars constantly orbiting each other. I think I think it's more than he's just about like Mario's antagonist. I think he is like an iconic. You know he's a lizard, he's spiny, he's kind of the sort of dragon like you know. He's sort of the antithesis, or not the antithesis, but like the epitome of, like the evil creature from your imagination, in a way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it kind of bounced off what Jerry was talking about. Bowser, i mean, like he said, he just looks iconically evil. You know, he's got the horns, he breathes higher, he's kidnapped princesses, it's just. There's a beauty in the simplicity with him. But I really love how Nintendo developed him in the in sort of the later 3D platformer games, but also the Mario RPGs, where they just make him a giant goofball.
Speaker 4:Yes, Almost, because Mario, yeah, paper Mario, such a goof.
Speaker 2:It is amazing He's. He actually joins your party in some of the games And the whole time he's just like Yeah, I'm a big evil guy, but I'm helping you. You know, not because I, like you Remember that, And it's just like that. That was one of the best things the movie did was nailing that energy of just being this really large and intimidating figure. But his heart is just a huge dork And, like I love just Bowser's, one of my favorite villains, not just in video games but across all media. Because of that reason, because you really could put him in any situation and he'd be entertaining, Yeah.
Speaker 4:I agree with that Sure.
Speaker 1:So let's move on to our next fighter. Today, let's talk about the cult lossal Titan. Birt Hold Hoover is among the remaining humans in the post apocalyptic world of attack on Titan, the global scourge that has pushed all of humanity back to a single city on a single island. Among the last remaining humans in the city, there are those that possess the ability to transform into special versions of Titans. Birt Hold is one of those humans able to turn into the colossal Titan, the largest, most iconic and most feared within the attack on Titan universe. Most typical Titans look fairly similar to humans, but with exaggerated and usually extremely disturbing features. The colossal Titan shows almost no skin, with most of its body just being exposed bone and muscle. If there is one kaiju in this tournament that will win with nothing but sheer strength, it will be the colossal Titan. As for the origin and creation of the character, it's thanks to the original artist and writer of the attack on Titan manga, hajime Asayama. The manga has sold over 110 million copies as of September 2022, making it one of the best selling of all time.
Speaker 1:On the television side of things, the anime has been developed by Witt Studio for the first 59 episodes and Mappa since episode 60. Season 1 of the anime came out in 2013 and the release of the fourth and final season of the show is ongoing this year, a full decade later. Despite the…. Sporadic releases, the anime has received critical acclaim. As for Birt Hold himself, he was voiced by David Matranga as the English dub voice and Tomohisa Hashizuma as the Japanese voice. Matranga is most well known for being the voice of Todoroki in My Hero Academia and, more recently, as Ken in the recently released Street Fighter 6. Eric, let's talk about attack on Titan. Like I said, it's been a well received series and incredibly successful In your eyes. What makes it so special and worthy of the praise?
Speaker 3:Well, funny enough, someone on TikTok asked this very similar question, so I'm going to give a very similar answer. It's by comparing attack on Titan to a show that was very popular at its peak, which is The Walking Dead. So the way I compare the two is an interesting comparison, to say the least. They both deal with human characters dealing with these monsters in their world. They have amazing cliffhangers that you're like oh, i have to watch the next episode. They also set up the intensity to a point where you don't know who's going to live or who's going to die. Those stakes are really what make you get invested.
Speaker 3:Where the two shows kind of divert The Walking Dead gets a lot of heat for putting the zombies in the background and the human to human story not being so interesting. Attack on Titan, though, when it makes that transition, the Titans are still really important and they play an important part. There's a lot of history here, but when they get into things like social class and political divides, you're trying to figure out the true intent of certain characters. That's where the real intrigue happens. So you're already sucked in, you're already loving the characters, you're loving the story, but when it takes that turn into some of you know at one point it's like a political drama and that at another point shit's just going off the rails and it's just nonstop action. It's a really amazing what they're able to pull off and the twists and turns of the story.
Speaker 3:Jay, you're hearing it not going to really talk spoilers beyond the first season, but you're hearing a lot about you know, this war-torn, just like society, and this is the last of humanity. But is that really all there is to it? There seems to be something else going on at play here. There's something in a basement that they're trying to get to. They play that card at what feels like the right time and in the right time. For us was so many years later, to your point, the sporadic release schedule. I mean that is something we've had to go through. So all of those things make Attack on Titan special, and now's the time to get into it, because it is finally wrapping up the final season, part seven.
Speaker 4:The second coming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is the perfect time because that's exactly what's happening. We've been going through the final season for like three years now. It's not great.
Speaker 1:They're really scheduled So this is the perfect time And, yeah, that's right, i'm catching up. I wanted to watch Attack on Titan for a really long time and I have now watched most of the first season. And, man, when I went to usually you know, shout out Madison Public Library system I get a ton of my stuff from there when I need to research for Super Bracket Bros I did the same thing for Attack on Titan. It's usually pretty straightforward. I went and looked at this website and I looked at checking all these, all the Blu-rays out. It was so confusing, it was an absolute mess, like the amount of parts and like and the fact that I went in there and there were Blu-rays for season four, which I know is the last season which is coming out now, and I was like, wait, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1:But then I realized how long this season has been coming out for But.
Speaker 1:I know I'm not. It doesn't sound like I'm advocating for watching this show, but I am, because Eric is absolutely right. Now is the time to get on board. Like go and watch all of it all at once. Like you don't have to be the fanboy that started in 2013 and is soured a decade later because of the release is getting dragged out. Like you don't have to deal with that. You can just watch it all right now. And it's amazing, like it's so good, like I am enjoying the heck out of this show. Eric is absolutely right.
Speaker 1:I've never watched I've never watched anime with so much intrigue, with so much like mystery to it on so many different levels. You know, like we were discussing before the show started which you can listen to if you're a Patreon member, by the way. I was talking about, like how I was researching for this episode, like reading wikis and things like that, but they still didn't make sense. Like it goes to, like I don't feel spoiled, even though I did my proper research for this episode, which is a wild feeling. You know it doesn't make any sense, but it just I'm still really looking forward to what's coming next in this series, what absolutely, like, who's going to who's going to die, what Titans are going to show up. You know, like it's just man, it's a good show.
Speaker 3:It's a good show And what I'll tell you is I can genuinely tell you you've like barely scratched the surface. So, again, this show really rewards you for sticking with it, and it's interesting along the way. It's not like an anime. This is Attack on Titan. The first episode is one of the best first episodes of anything I've watched, like it's immediately gripping The colossal Titan who we're talking about, immediately up to no good and starting trouble.
Speaker 1:So up to no good. It's a really nice way to put it. So again, you're like not even scratching the surface.
Speaker 3:It has so much to reward you with later on. And fun fact if I was to make a top 10 list, which technically I did in an episode last month, i would put Attack on Titan currently at one. So when I say you haven't even scratched the surface, this is definitely probably my favorite anime of all time, but collectively it's definitely the best one I've watched in my journey so far.
Speaker 1:I'll be keeping you updated on my journey as I go. 100%. The show is great, it's critically acclaimed, but I'm wondering if you can speak to what makes it personally resonate with you.
Speaker 3:So Attack on Titan in this world building that starts to happen in that first season. That just really resonated with me, just as a fan of storytelling and a fan of the genre and the medium of anime. And it does everything so cool, like again, it's not just a good story, the animation amazing, with studio put their whole foot in that thing and then Mapa came in and was like we're gonna put two feet in it. So they treat the series so good and the characters are also really they're likable when they need to be in there. They're unlikeable when they don't need to be. And that's the type of thing in this show that really long term, really makes this series special because you really do get attached with these characters and their journeys and this lifestyle. But it is very brutal And that is definitely something that resonates with me because it just tells a different type of story.
Speaker 3:When the world is so brutal like that And the things that these characters have to overcome and the environment that they're in, i just really love the genre because of this anime And that's what really makes it not resonate not only resonate with me, but also makes it sentimental for me, because this is one of those early things that really started my obsession. It started with series like Death Note, which then translated into this, and then eventually my hero academia, which was a much tamer and more widespread anime people love And that was just it. For me, that was like all right, well, i love all of this. This is great. I love the different directions that can take the different terms, just like the ODM gear all over the place. I love it.
Speaker 1:And so one last thing that I want to touch on. We got to talk about the colossal tighten a little bit. It's a little tough to talk about because I mean the mental gymnastics I had to go through just to explain what the colossal Titan is And I don't really want to dive into like story stuff so much But like what about the colossal Titan makes it? it's hard to quantify, it's hard to put into words, like what the show makes you feel about these Titans.
Speaker 3:Did the colossal Titan, just in sheer size, is intimidating. But then there are also other things like, for example, you know the ODM gear that these people have. Well, if you know that there's a human inside and you know the location, why can't you just kill him, why can't you just go get him? Well, the colossal Titan, it's not that he's just big and slow. He has the ability to basically exhaust his muscle mass into just sheer heat and just straight heat and steam. So you can't even get close to him without basically burning to a crisp. So those are the type of things that, without getting too deep into it, make the colossal really terrifying. He's not just big and slow, but it's not like you can really get to him very easily. And that in itself, when it comes down to a test of willpower and really who's going to last, the colossal Titan has a good argument that he can. He can last through a pretty long battle, you know. But once the battle's over for him, it's over, and we'll talk a little bit more about that.
Speaker 1:On the weakness side, So, now that we know everything we need to know about our fighters, let's get into a fight. Shall we boys, let's do it. Let's do it Ready. Just as a reminder, this is a fight to incapacitation, whether it be death trapping on consciousness or a forceful battlefield removal. It's also important to note that we take these characters as they are Morals, ethics and everything included, and, very important, that we have our random location generator this season with a bunch of cities, regions that we have been spinning all season long. So let's roll the dice and see where we are headed today. Wait the fuck up.
Speaker 3:Samurai, we have a city to burn.
Speaker 1:Last week we were in the real world. We were in New York City. This week we jump back into fiction. We are headed to the world of Cyberpunk 2077. We are headed to Night City. Oh, it's nighttime here.
Speaker 2:Yes it is.
Speaker 1:Quite. Notably It's nighttime. It is Night City, but yeah. So if you're unfamiliar with the game, i mean it's a cyberpunk ass. Cyberpunk city It is about. I really don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 2:It's just neon, big buildings, lots of rain, dark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, neon is shit. I mean like if you the dogs have neon. I will imagine I mean gosh the Colossal Titan is going to be out of place here, but I mean alternatively, Fury Bowser is so dark he might have camouflage.
Speaker 4:Well, it only comes out when it's thunderstorming or, like you know, darkness. When he appears, the sky turns dark. So you fit right in.
Speaker 1:As our fighters are lumbering. you know, i think you know you have a slight illumination coming from all sides of just the neon. you know colors flashing over the disgusting muscle of the Colossal Titan and the leathery skin of Fury Bowser, so sorry, as these two beasts are approaching each other, i ask you how does this fight break?
Speaker 2:off Instead of lumbering towards each other? can Bowser just be standing there and the Colossal Titan just pops out of nowhere?
Speaker 1:like in that one scene. I think that's appropriate.
Speaker 2:His face disappears over a build up like a skyscraper, just as mean mug.
Speaker 4:Okay. So I think Bowser has a couple of advantages in this fight, and one of them is he is fast. He's not I wouldn't say he's like really quick, he's not, he's not like faster than Mario, but he is, i think, faster than the colossal Titan. He can jump really far. He can throw himself into the air. You know, i think if we're going off of the the you know Boove sequence that we see in the game, i think the first thing we can expect for him is either to jump into the air and then come crashing down on the Titan with his spikes, you know, slamming into the ground, creating a shockwave that destroys everything around it, or he starts to inhale and starts to build up the power to launch his lava laser Across the city at this Titan and that's where I think the colossal Titan has a boon in the setting.
Speaker 2:He has plenty of Cover to dodge from the flame breath, because before that's true before. It's fine. I was thinking, if this is a wide open area, the colossal Titan's kind of got disadvantaged because he has no, he has no range to compare. Obviously he has mid range with that steam blast and he can pick up stuff and throw it. But Bowser would have the advantage in this. You know, it's a beam like.
Speaker 4:It's straight up Godzilla style, like breath that Just right clears through the map in the in Bowser's fury when you're little Mario and Bowser is Furiously, you know spraying at you, you can just hide behind any like structure and he will. He won't be able to hit you. So I think that the city will give lots of good cover for our Titan, despite how big he is. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would say with Bearthold. He's gonna be wondering why he's in his Titan form. So obviously he's gonna pretty much spawn and be like I didn't do that.
Speaker 3:He's also a very timid character, so he's not one that typically takes charge. Necessarily, that is, that is for his counterpart in the show To really do. He really follows more than he leads. So that's interesting, considering He is the biggest Titan Out of them all, arguably one of the strongest, if not the strongest. So the thing with him is I think he will kind of be standing still. So you know, joy brings up a good point. If, if Bowser goes up in the air or Is shooting from long range, i can easily see that being the start of this fight, with Bowser taking the offensive and the colossal Titan kind of Assessing the situation. Perthold is timid but he is smart and he is tactical, so I would think he's gonna start to see what Bowser can actually do before he tries to go on the offense.
Speaker 4:I think that Bowser's biggest weakness is that he is not a strategic fighter. He is really like a let's just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks, kind of thing. Right, he's very predictable, he moves and set patterns that are easy for you to exploit. And I think that And the other thing is that even this Bowser in especially, is like acting on instinct. He's referred to in the game as the beast. Even his son, bowser Jr, is enlisting the help of Mario to help like calm down His dad, who has like gone off to rails, like he's not even part of his normal Scheming Koopa self. He's like completely lost control. So you know, i think It's gonna be easy, for if, if personal gets a a chance to assess the situation, it's gonna be easy for him to exploit Bowser's weaknesses, assuming the Bowser doesn't rip him to pieces with his the spines really quick.
Speaker 3:I was gonna ask for a clarifying question. What is the size difference between these two characters? Do we have a good understanding on who's clearly bigger?
Speaker 4:He's got. He's got some stats here. Looks like Bowser or birth hold is 60 meters, but fury Bowser is bigger at 77 meters.
Speaker 1:Okay, Bowser is bigger and I will say, yeah, bowser's at 77. Bert hold is 60 meters. Bert was super easy because of like I think like the second line in the show is like He's looking over a wall and what character says that wall's 50 meters tall.
Speaker 4:He's like standing next to like a big measuring stick. You know like how much taller am I today?
Speaker 2:And then the third the third line of this show is like wow, he must be at least 2700 tons. They don't say that.
Speaker 1:I will say the tonnage was incredibly hard to pin down for the colossal Titan.
Speaker 1:I came up with 2700 over doing some research and conjecture with the greater internet. But one thing that they specifically mentioned and I Got to this part in the show they talk about how the Titans are extremely light, that despite their Incredible destructive power, that they're really light. So while 2700 tons compared to 57,000 tons for fury Bowser might seem, i mean, like you're talking about, what is that like five percent, you know, of fury Bowser's body mass, it's. It is not a really good indicator of what the colossal Titan is capable of. I do want to point that.
Speaker 2:The colossal Titan kick a hole in a giant wall, so it's not like it's not. I don't think we're going with boxing. It's not strict boxing rules where a higher weight classes have advantage. I think that colossal Titan is still packing Heat and the punches and the kicks. But I think I want to ask you guys about is this the steam ability Like? when I was researching it? that just sounds so interesting And it was super effective against. You know, the, the, the human character is trying to zip line around The colossal Titan to kill it, but how is it effective against something bigger?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's a good question. I was thinking about this because I think, because Bowser like shoots fire, right, he's obviously got some sort of fire resistance, but I don't see him being able to resist something as like scalding and you know So, so intense as the steam thing.
Speaker 3:Right, considering how easily he gets like knocked around by Bat by Mario, i think this would be pretty effective as a defense mechanism now, one thing that should definitely be noted here is that there is a Weakness to this, so it's it's like it is extremely hot. I mean, just a normal human body wouldn't last More than maybe a minute or so with before being basically burnt to a crisp if they were to stay Within that steam within that area. Now I don't know if the steam would necessarily stop an attack, but at close range can be very damaging. The catch is that if the colossal continues to use it, it's decreasing its muscle mass, so it starts to get down to its skeleton. So there's only a certain amount of it that you can do.
Speaker 3:And the second catch is once the colossal is out of commission and pretty much steams out. Burdhold is just a human and he cannot go back into being the colossal for quite some time. There is a cool down period. So there's definitely going to be a moment, a very pivotal moment in this match, where the colossal has to do something very, very, very, very badly At some point. Otherwise it's gonna be at the point of basically being incapacitated.
Speaker 2:Okay the other point I wanted to I want to talk about was watching Bowser's Fury for context. I haven't played Bowser's Fury but I did watch all the footage and I saw Surrounding Bowser fury when you finally fight him. Is all this sludge Like?
Speaker 2:it's almost like, yeah, he's almost like excreting goop that slows you down as Mario, when you try to approach him. Are we putting that into this fight? is Bowser Having just surrounded by this sludge? because if that's the case, that's, that's a really big deal for Burdhold who needs to get close to do damage.
Speaker 4:If he, if he's surrounded by sludge that slows him down, he does like a minute right, It's like any like well more like he converts the water it's around him into it right, so there's water falling and everything that I believe that it would play a role, but I don't see it being that big of an hindrance because all it really does is slow you down and you sort of sink into it. Since the cult and since the, the, the Titan is so big. I feel like his would maybe affect his ability to walk if he's close in there, but not really like swing his arms or anything like that.
Speaker 3:Okay, and just from a walking standpoint. I mean it should probably be mentioned that it's not a great location for the colossal Night City has a lot of buildings, a lot of different arch. You know architecture here That doesn't do well for Titan walking typically and he does walk, he's not jogging, he's not running in Bowser. So, Definitely note here.
Speaker 1:So I think the thing that I want to talk about the most and I've kind of been, i've been stewing on this and it it's got to be the Titans regenerative abilities, presumably, i mean, i guess. I guess I'll throw it to you, eric, you know, do we, do we ever see the colossal Titan you know Regrow at the same rate that we do other Titans, or what? what do those capabilities look like?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So and that that's where it gets a little difficult, because the colossal has a lot of that body mass, so I would say it has. It can take a little bit more To, you know, to really get to that point of exhaustion or incapacitation. So it's gonna take a lot. It's got it's got that going for it. Regenerate, regenerative It's not. It's not really something that that Titan, or a lot of the Titans, have the capability of doing. You will see characters who can turn into Titans, be able to regenerate body parts, for example. So if you were to have like Probably a famous one is is like a, like a arm bitten off and you're just swallowed.
Speaker 2:How'd you get your?
Speaker 3:back. That does happen And it doesn't take very, very long, but that's more, i would say, outside of Titan form for the colossal. There hasn't been any history that I'm aware of where mid fight The colossal is able to regenerate. And that is one of the drawbacks to that steam emission, because if it could regenerate I mean that he would just basically steam the entire time until the opponent submits.
Speaker 3:So he'd be pretty broken if he could regenerate so I do actually think on the weakness side That that not being an ability is gonna hinder him? How?
Speaker 4:tough is like a tight. This Titans hide exactly right. What if? if Bowser was to rip through him with like a claw or something, would he be able to resist that? I've just I just not getting a good idea of like how, how tough he is obviously can punch through a wall. That's pretty tough.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the colossal Titan. So this is where it's gonna get interesting. So, bowser, to your point, joey is not going to Tack, be tactical about where not at all Also probably not spoiled on attack on Titan, so it has no clue. There's a little man.
Speaker 4:Even if he did, there's no guarantee who act on no guarantee.
Speaker 3:Bowser is not the kind of person that like goes for a person's weaknesses.
Speaker 4:He leaves wide open spaces for people to exploit. It's sort of his thing, not yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:No, that, uh, that that's obvious, right? So, um, there, i would say the height is not, is not gonna stop like a spike or a nail, more so than like a sword from the ODM gear.
Speaker 3:So, if you've watched, you know you've watched the first six episodes J. You've watched the first season. You guys know if you've seen the iconic ODM gear. They're slashing at the back of the neck, the nape of the Titans, and There is the ability in the fear and that's why the colossal will typically emit steam when someone gets close to his nape, because that ODM sword has the ability to to pierce the skin. So I think I think that being a good comparison, i would think Bowser would have those same capabilities, if not more. I guess it would just depend on how sharp it is, but I think just had a sheer force in size. I feel like that's a pretty fair assessment.
Speaker 4:Yeah, i think this all depends on whether or not birth hold is able to Anticipate Bowser's movements and get out of the way in time. Bowser telegraphs everything, right, you know what he's gonna do basically before he does it. But you have to have the speed to get out of the way in order to take advantage of that sort of thing. And and he's also got, like hella range weapons right, he's got the. He's got the laser breath, which will be extracted by the buildings right in the class, will be able to hide behind it, but he's also got fireballs that you can kick. He's also launching Like pieces of earth into the air that will crash down Around them. So if any of those things like falls on the Titan, it's gonna be a problem for him to deal with.
Speaker 2:Okay, quick question How is the colossal Titan's ground pound ability When Bowser is on his back? is Birt-Hull gonna be able to jump in the air, do a somersault and ground pound his stomach to?
Speaker 3:activate the wedge point. You know, I don't think, I think you misunderstood what I meant by walking is the only one You must have you must have misheard, i think.
Speaker 2:I think there was a filler episode of Attack on Titan or an OVA of Birt-Hull, as the colossal Titan doing somersaults through the air. If I'm I think I might be I might have watched something different.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna be honest, there was a moment of silence here where I think you guys wanted me to say that.
Speaker 4:I think you guys wanted me to say something positive because I'm I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3:I walked in here with an idea and it has just gone terribly wrong, because I keep looking at it and he really does need to have a somersault ability at this point, because when he gets an opening he's gonna maybe step on him, but he's not even like. He's not even like bigger, like he doesn't even really have the size advantage and we talked about the weight not being exactly like as far as the tons, not being able to tell the full story. But it tells enough of the story where I don't think just like stomping on him would be enough. You know force.
Speaker 4:Maybe like a, maybe like a double-handed, like, like you know, smash into the ground. You know That.
Speaker 3:That could do it. That could do it, especially if you know. I would assume there's gonna be like a circle that tells him where to hit when Bowser's down.
Speaker 4:So I think the the when he lands in his back is not gonna work very well for Berthold, because when Bowser lands he also sends out that shockwave which will like probably collapse a lot of the city And unless Berthold can jump rope I don't think he's gonna have much chance of dodging that.
Speaker 2:I just I need to see the colossal Titan try to jump Dude no. It's like from this conversation. That's all I want to see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i would. I would just be happy, just like to see both feet off the ground, just like for for half a second. Just like I don't think it's possible, I almost feel like your skeletal frame would collapse.
Speaker 4:There is, there is a chance here, which is Bowser. Does this spinning side move right? He's sort of like like a rolling coin kind of kind of thing and one side is all spikes. You don't want to be in that side, but the other side is the soft underbelly, right. So if Berthold can see that coming, step out to the side and then do one of his side smashes with both fists as he rolls by, that that could be pretty devastating. I think The other thing is those spikes that Bowser throws into the air can be picked up and thrown. So, depending on Berthold's aim, he could probably knock Bowser out with a well-aimed spike.
Speaker 3:I think that Berthold would have to really have the the intelligence aspect to make this really go his way. So I think I think he's had a lot of disadvantages is kind of already the theme right And I think that having that human intelligence and just the intelligence in general from the combat experience and, you know, not being Bowser who loses to Mario every single time, i mean we're not talking about a warlord here.
Speaker 3:So I think Berthold really could possibly to your point, joey make some tactical decisions to be able to use the environment to buy some time. I think that, more so than necessarily moving out of the way, i think he could possibly try to like obstruct his viewpoint. he could possibly try to leverage that. as you know, the environment is a weapon. You know Eli wants to see him jump, but if he jumps it's not Night City anymore, it's just Night, there's no city, it's gone. So we may not want to see that happen because he's going to need the environment around him to really kind of leverage that. And I would say the colossal throwing it while throwing stuff is not his Titan ability, which you'll see, jay, very soon. He can definitely make it work. He could definitely make that work in his favor.
Speaker 2:You think the colossal Titan's smash ability? he just falls down, he just yells Timber and just He just puts his elbow out and just lands with his elbow. Pats on the elbow and slowly falls down, if he falls.
Speaker 3:He is not getting back up. He has any push-ups. I have fallen and I can't get up.
Speaker 2:He's going to need life-flow because it's not bad.
Speaker 1:He pulls out of his chest cavity the little ping, the little necklace and just calls for help because the armor Titan to come push him back up.
Speaker 3:That's exactly what would happen.
Speaker 1:So one thing that I want to talk about. I think that we've talked a lot about what Bowser can do to the colossal Titan. We've talked about the Titan's defensive abilities, his mobility. What does it take from the Titan to take down Bowser? What does that look like? Because if this is Bowser just hacking away at the Titan, trying to find the weakness and eventually getting there, what does the Titan have to do offensively to get this done?
Speaker 3:Unfortunately That's not a good start. Avating would be a great start and that is not a strength. But that is where I think again, leveraging the buildings and leveraging some of the steam ability to keep Bowser at bay, i think it's probably going to be the best opportunity to assess those long to medium range attacks. I think if you can avoid close combat, because that's while you want to get a punch and I mean the colossal has long arms, so the colossal can get a jab from across the ring, so to speak, so there's the opportunity for that. But I think anything closer than medium range definitely can be a sign of trouble. There will be a lot of use of that steam again, using that muscle mass. That will only be able to really buy time.
Speaker 3:And I think, assessing Bowser's video game character abilities of jump once, dodge, jump twice, hit Again, there's going to be some type of combo And I think Birthold can absolutely determine that. It's just a matter of how many hits can he take. And I think ultimately that's the theme of this fight, because I think he's going to take for each type of attack. The colossal Titan is going to take at least one to two hits before being able to adjust, and how many times can you do that? If three is the magic number, do we think the colossal Titan can take a couple hits, get a punch in new moveset? take a couple hits, get a punch in and then do it one more time for the win? I think that's the real conversation here and I am curious to see where we land on that.
Speaker 4:I think there's a serious threat of forcible battlefield removal here, considering how light the Titan is and how massive Bowser is and how fast he moves. If he gets a good hit on Barthol before he can get out of the way, that guy's going flying Maybe through buildings over the water into the next county. So I think there's a serious Bowser's packing, a serious punch. Doesn't do a lot to Mario, mario just gets a slightly smaller, but that's going to be a I'm not sure how many of those this smaller Titan, the smaller Kaiju, will be able to take from the serious mass that Bowser is packing.
Speaker 2:Alright, last thing Colossal Titan with cat ears.
Speaker 4:That's devastating. You see in the game that when the Plessy the dinosaur gets the cat. Things it becomes even bigger than its normal. It's a scale thing, right. You become bigger if you have the power-up than you were previously by a magnitude. Yes, if there were power-ups in this world, if he was to get the cat ears, I think that's curtains for Bowser.
Speaker 2:No, my one weakness.
Speaker 4:Why do I keep leaving these out?
Speaker 1:So how we decide the winners here on Super Bracket Bros, each of us is going to give an out of 10 on who we think will win this fight. The out of 10 is just to represent our personal confidence in a given fighter to be able to win this fight. Whoever receives the majority 3 out of 4 or 4 out of 4 of our total votes is going to be the fighter that moves on. The confidence does kick in if we do have a tie between the four of us. But, eli, do you have a decision in mind?
Speaker 2:You know, going in I haven't played Bowser's Fury, nor have I seen Attack on Titan. So this fight I was very interested in doing the research to compare both fighters. Just from the still images I thought it was going to be a closer fight because I had an idea in my mind of how these fighters would actually fight. But on doing the research I see it's the complete opposite. I am just amazed at how fast Fury Browser is, but also the size at which he is compared to the Colossal Titan. I am kind of surprised at how slow the Colossal Titan is. The steam ability I didn't realize sapped him of his own power. Yeah, like there was just so many things that came up of like man.
Speaker 2:This is kind of a wash Like I think I'm giving it to Fjord Bowser 8 out of 10 times. I'm almost nearing on 9 just because, like Fjord Bowser's bigger and moves faster and has more attack versatility. And we didn't even mention the water. This takes place in Night City, which is, by the way, and we see in Fjord Bowser he's able to use the water to like hide in. So that's another advantage.
Speaker 2:I just burthal cute Hoover just doesn't have like anything that Bowser doesn't have in this fight. If the Colossal Titan was faster and the Steam ability wasn't such a hindrance or didn't have such a like you know, a negative effect on his abilities, i think this would be a much closer fight. But he's just hamstrung by so many things where Bowser is kind of just wheeling and dealing without much anything holding him back really. So yeah, for me this is 8 out of 10 for Bowser. I think the Colossal Titan gets a win, maybe with the Steam ability. He exudes everything and, like melts Bowser Some cheeky you know three punches to the stomach, defeats Bowser, but that's.
Speaker 4:I'm being generous.
Speaker 2:I think Bowser wins this fight.
Speaker 4:Speedrunning uh Fury Bowser.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no cat ears for the Colossal Titan, so I think that sealed his fate.
Speaker 4:Joey, I have to agree with Eli 8 out of 10 times for Fury Bowser. Everything he said, plus the fact that Bowser's main attacks are bludgeoning and like piercing weapons right, Which is going to be devastating toward our Colossal Titan, who is weak against those things, I think the size advantage is probably the biggest thing that turns this fight. For me, If the Colossal Titan was bigger, you know, slower but stronger, I would say that Bowser would end up on the side, upside down, you know, sinking into the goop licking his wounds. But that's not the case. So 8 out of 10 times for Bowser.
Speaker 3:Eric, So I know you brought me on. Tak on Titan guy. I came in, really wanted and I came in with a mindset because listen, I started doing Fury Bowser research and I was like shit this is not good.
Speaker 3:And I know they're close in ranking. I think the opponent one is a detriment to. I mean, you guys gave it a good effort to see what cracks in the armor can be done to Bowser and and what can the Colossal bring. I think it's just simply a bad matchup. It's a bad location. It's simply for the fact that my answer is an 8 out of 10 as well And it's for the reasons you guys mentioned.
Speaker 3:But this could have easily been and I still think in any case Bowser would have won because it's a bad matchup. But really, 6 out of 10, 7 out of 10, that could have happened if the location was different and we had the ability, some type of special ability, for the Colossal to transform a little bit And then just a lot of different things could have gone his way. But I mean again, steam and punches. That's unfortunately what we've determined in this matchup And I got a painfully agree. It hurts me. The Colossal deserve to be on this roster And I think in another matchup would have really performed a lot better. But Fury Bowser, i think, just off a sheer strength alone and the abilities that he has, i think he's gonna take a few people out. I don't know if he's gonna win the whole thing, but he's competitive. That was not expected, because when I did my research.
Speaker 3:I was scared coming into this.
Speaker 1:So I'm in a similar mind And I feel like I'm actually gonna defend the Colossal Titan here a little bit, because I'm only going 7 out of times for Bowser. I feel maybe it's because I'm ultra hyped for attack on Titan right now, maybe and I'll admit you know a possible bias here because, like, i'm in the midst of the show and really enjoying it But just like I feel like the like Bowser's going to attack with like a video game boss regularity and he's going up against a human. I think the intelligence factor is something that is important here. Like I think that Bowser, yeah, can probably just pick up the Titan and chuck him, but why would he do that?
Speaker 1:You know, like what's to say that like he is smart enough to like think about that.
Speaker 1:You know, i just don't trust Bowser as a video game boss, you know, with predictable patterns. But at the end of the day, i still am going Bowser because, like he does have all the powers from what I can tell, you know, he's also a video game boss in the fact that he's not limited by video game hero cooldowns and things like that either. You know. So, like there is that aspect to consider And yeah, i think that Bert Holt is just he's just too damn slow, like, at the end of the day, like I really think that is the number one hindrance in this fight. If they were the same speed, i would probably go with the colossal Titan, you know, like I think, if they, if they were at a similar, you know, mock, you know I think I would go with the colossal Titan. But yeah, along with being, you know, along with incredible durability in a very specific weak spot, he's just eventually Bowser's going to rip his head off and see the little guy poking out.
Speaker 1:So what do you think he's going to do when he sees a little guy poking out?
Speaker 2:He's going to kill that guy.
Speaker 1:So Bowser's, bowser's, he's angry, he's angry With that that is going to be Fury Bowser moving on in the tournament to face the winner of next week's matchup, where we are talking Godzilla versus the Power Rangers. So you're not going to want to miss next week's matchup. That's our number one versus 16. So you're going to be able to find out who Fury Bowser is taking on. But, thank you guys, both Joey and Eric, i both, i appreciate both of your time so much for coming on and giving it, giving you your best. go for one of you.
Speaker 4:I appreciate the effort.
Speaker 3:You have to say which one.
Speaker 4:No, we know.
Speaker 3:It started off that way, don't worry, it's fine.
Speaker 2:I got a win. That's all that matters. That's all that matters to me.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, thank you both for coming on, and I want to give our audience a chance to know where to find you out on the internet, so they can go and find what you're up to. Joey, why don't you tell us where people could find Aphible Chat?
Speaker 4:Yes, aphible Chat, like Jay mentioned in the top of the episode, we're a weekly movie podcast. We talk about all sorts of different things. We did an episode on Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo recently and we're also going out. We also did Super Mario Bros the movie, and pretty soon we're doing The Flash and Oppenheimer and Barbie. So all the new ones coming out and old ones that you love, come and check us out. You can find all of our links at aphiblechatcom, your new favorite website on the internet, but we're available on every podcasting platform. So just look up Aphible Chat and you'll find us there. Eric, tell us about Wait For It.
Speaker 3:Well, at this point, if you're not listening to the Wait For It podcast from the Super Bracket Bros, you're dead to me.
Speaker 4:That's all I can tell you.
Speaker 3:But for those of you guys that have made the jump or aren't thinking about it despite the threat, we have a lot of great content.
Speaker 3:We're going to have to wait for our podcast. Recently we introduced a new series called Creator Spotlight, So we had the lovely voice actor Matthew Elkins on from anime series you may know called Blue Lock. We're really excited to do stuff like that. You guys obviously have heard we've been in the convention scene. Bold Matt Suri, as Phil mentioned on the last episode, is going to be here in June. We just did a promo shoot which we're excited to be released for them. We also are going to be hosting panels at the event and having a panel of our own, which is really exciting, And on the show we have a lot of different series that you can get into. So obviously things like Up High, Down Low, where we rank things, Late to the party. We're doing Indiana Jones this month. We have never seen the Indiana Jones films.
Speaker 4:So we're watching them. Are you going to?
Speaker 3:see the new one. Are you going to see the new one? We're deciding on that episode. If we're going to see, Dial of Destiny.
Speaker 3:You're not going to want to? I don't think so. The first one was interesting. Let's just say that it is an interesting series, but we're excited to get into it. And then, of course, we do a bunch of bonus stuff like reviews and different things on TikTok, where we're posting daily now. So that's a whole journey, despite Phil's hesitancy. So we have a lot of great things to look forward to and we'd appreciate you, you know, jumping on board And if not, again you're dead to me. So that's.
Speaker 1:Eric, you could only threaten my audience once per episode.
Speaker 3:It's like you can't, it's just a double doubt. You got me in a bad mood to start, and then I had to tear my boy, my boy band hold down Like the.
Speaker 4:Titans aren't shit.
Speaker 3:They're so good Each time each time Jay asked a question and I said well, the colossal can't do that. I can tell Jay was getting so pissed He's like what did I even bring you on here for?
Speaker 2:I felt so bad.
Speaker 1:I had high hopes for the colossal.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2:So can you regenerate.
Speaker 3:No Okay, can you hop? No Okay, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1:I just kicked you off at some point, just made up my own attack on Titan head. Don't ask me any more questions.
Speaker 3:Joey said the stage I told you, jay.
Speaker 2:There is an OVA of the Titan summer salting in air.
Speaker 3:You should have done with that. Trust the expert who hasn't seen the show.
Speaker 1:Thank you both for coming on. I really appreciate your insights and expertise on the characters today. I genuinely do appreciate it. But if you are listening to this and you're looking to catch up with Super Bracket Bros, there's a couple of ways you can do that. We are on Instagram and Facebook. Those are our primary social medias where you can find us at Super Bracket Bros. At the pinposts at the top of both of those pages you can find the schedule so you can know when all the matches are coming out. It's a great way to keep up with the show and know what's coming up next.
Speaker 1:If you're looking to support the show a little bit further, reviews go a long way on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you're unaware of the mobile app, you can go in and rate shows on a 5-star scale. You don't even have to write anything, you just have to go in there and hit 5 stars, and we would be eternally grateful. If you're looking to go a step further, we do have a Patreon, the Patreon, where we feature monthly bonus episodes of exclusive content, such as we've remixed all of Season 1, our current patrons, andrew, emily, the Wait For It podcast, matthew Bliss and Kyle So all of them are currently supporting the show, helping pay the bills over here and keeping the lights on here at Super Bracket Bros. Last shout out of the day goes to Nick Heredia, an DH artist on Instagram, for creating our brand new theme song for Season 5 of Super.
Speaker 4:Bracket Bros. Oh really, i just knew that was awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he made our theme song and, yeah, it's a blast, it's awesome. I'm super happy with it. So, yeah, hopefully you are a fan too. So if you're a creative person, you need a little bit of personalized music, not music that you are going to see in a random YouTube ad every once in a while, which is driving me absolutely nuts about our old theme song. You know you can get something unique and personalized to you, but that is going to do it for us today on Super Bracket Bros. Eli, do you have anything else for the people?
Speaker 2:I'm going to look for that tack on Titan OVA.
Speaker 4:He's still stuck and do it. Rekhaan, Rekhaan, you can meet the Somersault.
Speaker 2:There's a beach episode. He does a Somersault off of a pier. I swear to God.
Speaker 1:On behalf of myself, my co-host Eli and our amazing guest today, eric and Joey, remember no true hero is a one trick pony.